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	<title>Comments on: The Real Reason Guys Should Hate Twilight</title>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://www.feministfrequency.com/2009/11/the-real-reason-guys-should-hate-twilight/comment-page-1/#comment-20936</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 09:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with everything you said here, and I really can&#039;t stand those homophobic morons in those clips you used, but I must raise two points. 

1)As a guy, I feel you came across as a little condescending in that last bit with the &quot;repeat after me&quot; bit. Sorry, but that&#039;s just how you came across. I&#039;m sure that was not your intent. 

2)How about hating it for the fact that it&#039;s wildly sexist to both men and women? With Bella we get a vapid, obsessed, manipulative, cruel, idiot whose entire life is centered around her man. and in Edward, Bella&#039;s father, and Jacob we get men who are stupid, sex driven, easily manipulated and fooled, obsessed only with women, and vain. Thanks for all that Meyer. Thanks a bunch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with everything you said here, and I really can&#8217;t stand those homophobic morons in those clips you used, but I must raise two points. </p>
<p>1)As a guy, I feel you came across as a little condescending in that last bit with the &#8220;repeat after me&#8221; bit. Sorry, but that&#8217;s just how you came across. I&#8217;m sure that was not your intent. </p>
<p>2)How about hating it for the fact that it&#8217;s wildly sexist to both men and women? With Bella we get a vapid, obsessed, manipulative, cruel, idiot whose entire life is centered around her man. and in Edward, Bella&#8217;s father, and Jacob we get men who are stupid, sex driven, easily manipulated and fooled, obsessed only with women, and vain. Thanks for all that Meyer. Thanks a bunch.</p>
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		<title>By: Renderings 3: Empowerment through Submission: Gender, Sexuality &#38; Desire in Twilight &#124; wrongitude</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renderings 3: Empowerment through Submission: Gender, Sexuality &#38; Desire in Twilight &#124; wrongitude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2011 01:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] her around and fiddling with her car in order to prevent her from going over to Jacob&#8217;s. Feminist Frequency, again, is spot on in characterizing him as a “creepy, manipulative, controlling, overprotective, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] her around and fiddling with her car in order to prevent her from going over to Jacob&#8217;s. Feminist Frequency, again, is spot on in characterizing him as a “creepy, manipulative, controlling, overprotective, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse</title>
		<link>http://www.feministfrequency.com/2009/11/the-real-reason-guys-should-hate-twilight/comment-page-1/#comment-13491</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched the first movie with friends in an effort to make fun of it, but came away downright disturbed. When my ex conned me into watching the second film, I felt the need to take a bath in bleach to rid myself completely of the experience.
I have nothing against Edward&#039;s perceived effeminate characteristics, but the fact that he stalks Bella and is embraced for it is akin to an endorsement of Stockholm Syndrome. Also, the special effects were hysterically bad, but that&#039;s beside the point.

As pointed out on The Oatmeal, Bella is portrayed as a doormat more than a character. She is merely used to facilitate a twisted, psychologically detrimental &quot;romance&quot; centered on two boys who torment her for God knows why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched the first movie with friends in an effort to make fun of it, but came away downright disturbed. When my ex conned me into watching the second film, I felt the need to take a bath in bleach to rid myself completely of the experience.<br />
I have nothing against Edward&#8217;s perceived effeminate characteristics, but the fact that he stalks Bella and is embraced for it is akin to an endorsement of Stockholm Syndrome. Also, the special effects were hysterically bad, but that&#8217;s beside the point.</p>
<p>As pointed out on The Oatmeal, Bella is portrayed as a doormat more than a character. She is merely used to facilitate a twisted, psychologically detrimental &#8220;romance&#8221; centered on two boys who torment her for God knows why.</p>
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		<title>By: Lilia</title>
		<link>http://www.feministfrequency.com/2009/11/the-real-reason-guys-should-hate-twilight/comment-page-1/#comment-12397</link>
		<dc:creator>Lilia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2011 19:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, check out Dan Bergstein&#039;s &quot;Blogging Twilight&quot; on Sparknotes. He does a great job pointing out how ridiculous and horrifying it is that any girl would like a guy that broke into her house and watched her sleep, a guy who later abducts her and isolates her from her friends, a guy that has a hard time whether or not to eat her alive or just marry her, and on and on. Really, girls? You want a guy like that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, check out Dan Bergstein&#8217;s &#8220;Blogging Twilight&#8221; on Sparknotes. He does a great job pointing out how ridiculous and horrifying it is that any girl would like a guy that broke into her house and watched her sleep, a guy who later abducts her and isolates her from her friends, a guy that has a hard time whether or not to eat her alive or just marry her, and on and on. Really, girls? You want a guy like that?</p>
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		<title>By: Free NX</title>
		<link>http://www.feministfrequency.com/2009/11/the-real-reason-guys-should-hate-twilight/comment-page-1/#comment-10218</link>
		<dc:creator>Free NX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2010 18:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is some solid information on this page. I am in love with your blog so far. I&#039;ve added you to my Google Reader RSS subscriptions and will check back often. I did get some errors with how fast the website loaded. Might be something to fix. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is some solid information on this page. I am in love with your blog so far. I&#8217;ve added you to my Google Reader RSS subscriptions and will check back often. I did get some errors with how fast the website loaded. Might be something to fix.</p>
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		<title>By: Anita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 06:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Homophobic comments are never okay, not even when you attempt to justify it as &#039;just the way guys talk&#039;.  It may be common but it doesn&#039;t make it okay.  In this week&#039;s episode of Glee &quot;Theatricality&quot;, Kurt&#039;s dad goes into a wonderful monologue about how unacceptable homophobic language is, it&#039;s worth taking a look at.

You can call me arrogant, but it is still never okay to use oppressive language, and I stand by my statement that it is clearly wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Homophobic comments are never okay, not even when you attempt to justify it as &#8216;just the way guys talk&#8217;.  It may be common but it doesn&#8217;t make it okay.  In this week&#8217;s episode of Glee &#8220;Theatricality&#8221;, Kurt&#8217;s dad goes into a wonderful monologue about how unacceptable homophobic language is, it&#8217;s worth taking a look at.</p>
<p>You can call me arrogant, but it is still never okay to use oppressive language, and I stand by my statement that it is clearly wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Zie</title>
		<link>http://www.feministfrequency.com/2009/11/the-real-reason-guys-should-hate-twilight/comment-page-1/#comment-607</link>
		<dc:creator>Zie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 17:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole &quot;Twilight&#039;s gay&quot; thing has been misread to an extent I think. While I agree that there are some who are actually using it as a hateful term; for the majority of men, calling something gay is not a hateful term, but a dismissive one. When they are saying it is gay, they mean that it has not been made for them (As far as I can tell Twilight has been made for girls in their early teens). 
The &#039;Too sensitive&#039; comments are, also from my knowledge of the way guys talk, the same as your emotional abuse comments. There is a natural level of sensitivity in all of us, when the level of sensitivity goes beyond that (either naturally, or purposefully) the people around that over sensitive individual suffer, because the individual becomes the &quot;creepy, manipulative, controlling, overprotective, stalker.&quot; you talked about.

Also don&#039;t you think that seeming as what you are talking about here is peoples opinions and impressions, telling them that they are wrong and that your answer is the right one is quite arrogant. Its cool to voice your opinions, and to break theirs down and point out faults in their logic (Your ability to do these in an entertaining and interesting way is what actually drew me to your site), but really I think that this video just comes across as preachy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole &#8220;Twilight&#8217;s gay&#8221; thing has been misread to an extent I think. While I agree that there are some who are actually using it as a hateful term; for the majority of men, calling something gay is not a hateful term, but a dismissive one. When they are saying it is gay, they mean that it has not been made for them (As far as I can tell Twilight has been made for girls in their early teens).<br />
The &#8216;Too sensitive&#8217; comments are, also from my knowledge of the way guys talk, the same as your emotional abuse comments. There is a natural level of sensitivity in all of us, when the level of sensitivity goes beyond that (either naturally, or purposefully) the people around that over sensitive individual suffer, because the individual becomes the &#8220;creepy, manipulative, controlling, overprotective, stalker.&#8221; you talked about.</p>
<p>Also don&#8217;t you think that seeming as what you are talking about here is peoples opinions and impressions, telling them that they are wrong and that your answer is the right one is quite arrogant. Its cool to voice your opinions, and to break theirs down and point out faults in their logic (Your ability to do these in an entertaining and interesting way is what actually drew me to your site), but really I think that this video just comes across as preachy.</p>
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		<title>By: [discussion]: Expletives Not Deleted - Mythic Folk Treeboards</title>
		<link>http://www.feministfrequency.com/2009/11/the-real-reason-guys-should-hate-twilight/comment-page-1/#comment-597</link>
		<dc:creator>[discussion]: Expletives Not Deleted - Mythic Folk Treeboards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 12:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I watched this really funny (and incisive) video by the blogger behind Feminist Frequency about  The Real Reasons why Guys Should Hate Twilight. Ah. Ding. &#8220;The Real Reasons&#8221; as opposed to &#8220;The Wrong Reasons&#8221;. The same [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I watched this really funny (and incisive) video by the blogger behind Feminist Frequency about  The Real Reasons why Guys Should Hate Twilight. Ah. Ding. &#8220;The Real Reasons&#8221; as opposed to &#8220;The Wrong Reasons&#8221;. The same [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dropout Ninja</title>
		<link>http://www.feministfrequency.com/2009/11/the-real-reason-guys-should-hate-twilight/comment-page-1/#comment-415</link>
		<dc:creator>Dropout Ninja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 01:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw an anti-Twilight cartoon short by the guys who did Halfbeard the Pirate and they likewise missed the point. As a student of literature, I find Twilight distasteful not just for the sexism but the deflated plot and overpopulation of adverbs-- plus, Edward Cullen &quot;smirks,&quot; &quot;snickers,&quot; and &quot;grins&quot; more than any other character I&#039;ve encountered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw an anti-Twilight cartoon short by the guys who did Halfbeard the Pirate and they likewise missed the point. As a student of literature, I find Twilight distasteful not just for the sexism but the deflated plot and overpopulation of adverbs&#8211; plus, Edward Cullen &#8220;smirks,&#8221; &#8220;snickers,&#8221; and &#8220;grins&#8221; more than any other character I&#8217;ve encountered.</p>
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		<title>By: Rocket</title>
		<link>http://www.feministfrequency.com/2009/11/the-real-reason-guys-should-hate-twilight/comment-page-1/#comment-101</link>
		<dc:creator>Rocket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 05:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually I dislike Twilight because Bella is a Mary Sue(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Sue) and one of the most negative female characters I have ever read. Her actions are rather disgusting, just as much as Edward&#039;s. It&#039;s writing is terrible and it lacks personality and any kind of wit.

It&#039;s a nice filter for potential partners though, it&#039;s a nice indication of a girl&#039;s true character.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually I dislike Twilight because Bella is a Mary Sue(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Sue) and one of the most negative female characters I have ever read. Her actions are rather disgusting, just as much as Edward&#8217;s. It&#8217;s writing is terrible and it lacks personality and any kind of wit.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a nice filter for potential partners though, it&#8217;s a nice indication of a girl&#8217;s true character.</p>
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