Comments on: The Real Reason Guys Should Hate Twilight http://www.feministfrequency.com/2009/11/the-real-reason-guys-should-hate-twilight/ Conversations with Pop Culture; feminist analysis of race, gender, class, sexuality and privilege in pop culture Mon, 26 Jul 2010 05:04:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Anita http://www.feministfrequency.com/2009/11/the-real-reason-guys-should-hate-twilight/comment-page-1/#comment-632 Anita Fri, 28 May 2010 06:29:09 +0000 http://www.feministfrequency.com/?p=181#comment-632 Homophobic comments are never okay, not even when you attempt to justify it as 'just the way guys talk'. It may be common but it doesn't make it okay. In this week's episode of Glee "Theatricality", Kurt's dad goes into a wonderful monologue about how unacceptable homophobic language is, it's worth taking a look at. You can call me arrogant, but it is still never okay to use oppressive language, and I stand by my statement that it is clearly wrong. Homophobic comments are never okay, not even when you attempt to justify it as ‘just the way guys talk’. It may be common but it doesn’t make it okay. In this week’s episode of Glee “Theatricality”, Kurt’s dad goes into a wonderful monologue about how unacceptable homophobic language is, it’s worth taking a look at.

You can call me arrogant, but it is still never okay to use oppressive language, and I stand by my statement that it is clearly wrong.

]]> By: Zie http://www.feministfrequency.com/2009/11/the-real-reason-guys-should-hate-twilight/comment-page-1/#comment-607 Zie Wed, 26 May 2010 17:36:23 +0000 http://www.feministfrequency.com/?p=181#comment-607 The whole "Twilight's gay" thing has been misread to an extent I think. While I agree that there are some who are actually using it as a hateful term; for the majority of men, calling something gay is not a hateful term, but a dismissive one. When they are saying it is gay, they mean that it has not been made for them (As far as I can tell Twilight has been made for girls in their early teens). The 'Too sensitive' comments are, also from my knowledge of the way guys talk, the same as your emotional abuse comments. There is a natural level of sensitivity in all of us, when the level of sensitivity goes beyond that (either naturally, or purposefully) the people around that over sensitive individual suffer, because the individual becomes the "creepy, manipulative, controlling, overprotective, stalker." you talked about. Also don't you think that seeming as what you are talking about here is peoples opinions and impressions, telling them that they are wrong and that your answer is the right one is quite arrogant. Its cool to voice your opinions, and to break theirs down and point out faults in their logic (Your ability to do these in an entertaining and interesting way is what actually drew me to your site), but really I think that this video just comes across as preachy. The whole “Twilight’s gay” thing has been misread to an extent I think. While I agree that there are some who are actually using it as a hateful term; for the majority of men, calling something gay is not a hateful term, but a dismissive one. When they are saying it is gay, they mean that it has not been made for them (As far as I can tell Twilight has been made for girls in their early teens).
The ‘Too sensitive’ comments are, also from my knowledge of the way guys talk, the same as your emotional abuse comments. There is a natural level of sensitivity in all of us, when the level of sensitivity goes beyond that (either naturally, or purposefully) the people around that over sensitive individual suffer, because the individual becomes the “creepy, manipulative, controlling, overprotective, stalker.” you talked about.

Also don’t you think that seeming as what you are talking about here is peoples opinions and impressions, telling them that they are wrong and that your answer is the right one is quite arrogant. Its cool to voice your opinions, and to break theirs down and point out faults in their logic (Your ability to do these in an entertaining and interesting way is what actually drew me to your site), but really I think that this video just comes across as preachy.

]]> By: [discussion]: Expletives Not Deleted - Mythic Folk Treeboards http://www.feministfrequency.com/2009/11/the-real-reason-guys-should-hate-twilight/comment-page-1/#comment-597 [discussion]: Expletives Not Deleted - Mythic Folk Treeboards Tue, 25 May 2010 12:09:21 +0000 http://www.feministfrequency.com/?p=181#comment-597 [...] I watched this really funny (and incisive) video by the blogger behind Feminist Frequency about The Real Reasons why Guys Should Hate Twilight. Ah. Ding. “The Real Reasons” as opposed to “The Wrong Reasons”. The same [...] [...] I watched this really funny (and incisive) video by the blogger behind Feminist Frequency about The Real Reasons why Guys Should Hate Twilight. Ah. Ding. “The Real Reasons” as opposed to “The Wrong Reasons”. The same [...]

]]> By: Dropout Ninja http://www.feministfrequency.com/2009/11/the-real-reason-guys-should-hate-twilight/comment-page-1/#comment-415 Dropout Ninja Mon, 10 May 2010 01:23:50 +0000 http://www.feministfrequency.com/?p=181#comment-415 I saw an anti-Twilight cartoon short by the guys who did Halfbeard the Pirate and they likewise missed the point. As a student of literature, I find Twilight distasteful not just for the sexism but the deflated plot and overpopulation of adverbs-- plus, Edward Cullen "smirks," "snickers," and "grins" more than any other character I've encountered. I saw an anti-Twilight cartoon short by the guys who did Halfbeard the Pirate and they likewise missed the point. As a student of literature, I find Twilight distasteful not just for the sexism but the deflated plot and overpopulation of adverbs– plus, Edward Cullen “smirks,” “snickers,” and “grins” more than any other character I’ve encountered.

]]> By: Rocket http://www.feministfrequency.com/2009/11/the-real-reason-guys-should-hate-twilight/comment-page-1/#comment-101 Rocket Thu, 07 Jan 2010 05:10:54 +0000 http://www.feministfrequency.com/?p=181#comment-101 Actually I dislike Twilight because Bella is a Mary Sue(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Sue) and one of the most negative female characters I have ever read. Her actions are rather disgusting, just as much as Edward's. It's writing is terrible and it lacks personality and any kind of wit. It's a nice filter for potential partners though, it's a nice indication of a girl's true character. Actually I dislike Twilight because Bella is a Mary Sue(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Sue) and one of the most negative female characters I have ever read. Her actions are rather disgusting, just as much as Edward’s. It’s writing is terrible and it lacks personality and any kind of wit.

It’s a nice filter for potential partners though, it’s a nice indication of a girl’s true character.

]]> By: harlotofthearts.org » Blog Archive » Buffy the Twilight Slayer http://www.feministfrequency.com/2009/11/the-real-reason-guys-should-hate-twilight/comment-page-1/#comment-95 harlotofthearts.org » Blog Archive » Buffy the Twilight Slayer Sun, 03 Jan 2010 20:21:12 +0000 http://www.feministfrequency.com/?p=181#comment-95 [...] see Christine Seifert’s “Bite Me (or Don’t)” or Anita Sarkeesian’s “The Real Reason Guys Should Hate Twilight,” among innumerable others.) This remix does a great job, I think, of humorously highlighting just [...] [...] see Christine Seifert’s “Bite Me (or Don’t)” or Anita Sarkeesian’s “The Real Reason Guys Should Hate Twilight,” among innumerable others.) This remix does a great job, I think, of humorously highlighting just [...]

]]> By: Anita http://www.feministfrequency.com/2009/11/the-real-reason-guys-should-hate-twilight/comment-page-1/#comment-56 Anita Tue, 08 Dec 2009 21:28:21 +0000 http://www.feministfrequency.com/?p=181#comment-56 Thanks and also I think homophobia is a bit more complicated then that. I know people who have a strong prejudice against queer folks but are certainly not repressed themselves. I think the answers about homophobia are deeply rooted in our system of patriarchy. Check out just about anything by bell hooks because she explains the system of patriarchy and how it affects both men and women. Thanks and also I think homophobia is a bit more complicated then that. I know people who have a strong prejudice against queer folks but are certainly not repressed themselves. I think the answers about homophobia are deeply rooted in our system of patriarchy. Check out just about anything by bell hooks because she explains the system of patriarchy and how it affects both men and women.

]]> By: R. Arce http://www.feministfrequency.com/2009/11/the-real-reason-guys-should-hate-twilight/comment-page-1/#comment-48 R. Arce Fri, 04 Dec 2009 11:11:19 +0000 http://www.feministfrequency.com/?p=181#comment-48 That was great, and most guys who say things like that are usually closet cases. (Google connection between homophobia and repressed homosexual desires) That was great, and most guys who say things like that are usually closet cases. (Google connection between homophobia and repressed homosexual desires)

]]> By: Nickey Robo http://www.feministfrequency.com/2009/11/the-real-reason-guys-should-hate-twilight/comment-page-1/#comment-46 Nickey Robo Wed, 02 Dec 2009 23:30:08 +0000 http://www.feministfrequency.com/?p=181#comment-46 Right on! I love infomania, but Ben Hoffman kind of drives me bananas. I was really irritated by his rant against Twilight, glad to see you saying something. Right on!
I love infomania, but Ben Hoffman kind of drives me bananas. I was really irritated by his rant against Twilight, glad to see you saying something.

]]> By: Laura Shapiro http://www.feministfrequency.com/2009/11/the-real-reason-guys-should-hate-twilight/comment-page-1/#comment-39 Laura Shapiro Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:33:59 +0000 http://www.feministfrequency.com/?p=181#comment-39 Well played. (: Well played. (:

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